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		<title>Comment on Key Ideas in Linguistics and the Philosophy of Language: Finished at Last by Websites tagged "academics" on Postsaver</title>
		<link>http://chrisroutledge.co.uk/blog/2008/09/key-ideas-in-linguistics-and-the-philosophy-of-language-finished-at-last/#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>Websites tagged "academics" on Postsaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Cains: More Details Emerging by Chris</title>
		<link>http://chrisroutledge.co.uk/blog/2008/10/cains-more-details-emerging/#comment-1123</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever you may think of the Dusanj brothers, making comments like the one I just edited out is very risky on a public forum like this. Opinion is fine by me, but let's stay away from libel--I can't afford it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever you may think of the Dusanj brothers, making comments like the one I just edited out is very risky on a public forum like this. Opinion is fine by me, but let&#8217;s stay away from libel&#8211;I can&#8217;t afford it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cains: More Details Emerging by John</title>
		<link>http://chrisroutledge.co.uk/blog/2008/10/cains-more-details-emerging/#comment-1122</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[libelous section of comment deleted] Why are they not being investigated by the authorities?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Dusanj&#8217;s Making a Comeback? by Chris</title>
		<link>http://chrisroutledge.co.uk/blog/2008/09/dusanjs-making-a-comeback/#comment-1121</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jay

I expect the administrators will have taken their conduct as directors into account in arranging the deal and as far as I know there has been no suggestion at all of wrongdoing or mismanagement. Mistakes were made, that's for sure, but unless there is evidence of something more sinister it's unfair (and maybe even unwise) to imply anything else.

It is extraordinary that they have been given another chance, but based on what we know so far I think the reasons for the failure were pretty clear and straightforward. The whole affair is a disaster for many of the staff in the ex-Honeycombe pubs of course, but Honeycombe was on the rocks before the takeover. That's why the smaller company (Cain's) became the dominant one in the deal.

Anyway, with a bit of luck I will get to talk to the Dusanjs in the next week or so and will ask them to expand on what happened.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jay</p>
<p>I expect the administrators will have taken their conduct as directors into account in arranging the deal and as far as I know there has been no suggestion at all of wrongdoing or mismanagement. Mistakes were made, that&#8217;s for sure, but unless there is evidence of something more sinister it&#8217;s unfair (and maybe even unwise) to imply anything else.</p>
<p>It is extraordinary that they have been given another chance, but based on what we know so far I think the reasons for the failure were pretty clear and straightforward. The whole affair is a disaster for many of the staff in the ex-Honeycombe pubs of course, but Honeycombe was on the rocks before the takeover. That&#8217;s why the smaller company (Cain&#8217;s) became the dominant one in the deal.</p>
<p>Anyway, with a bit of luck I will get to talk to the Dusanjs in the next week or so and will ask them to expand on what happened.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dusanj&#8217;s Making a Comeback? by Jay</title>
		<link>http://chrisroutledge.co.uk/blog/2008/09/dusanjs-making-a-comeback/#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should be investigated as to their conduct as directors. What a pair!!!!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Cain&#8217;s Beer Company Posting Big Losses by J Howe</title>
		<link>http://chrisroutledge.co.uk/blog/2008/07/cains-beer-company-posting-big-losses/#comment-1117</link>
		<dc:creator>J Howe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact is they expanded too rapidly and have been overambitious. Honeycombe leisure was a bridge too far. To lose 4.5 million on a turnover of 25 million is catastophic!!! If they survive it will be in a very different form. Smaller ,tighter, more focused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is they expanded too rapidly and have been overambitious. Honeycombe leisure was a bridge too far. To lose 4.5 million on a turnover of 25 million is catastophic!!! If they survive it will be in a very different form. Smaller ,tighter, more focused.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cain&#8217;s Beer Company Posting Big Losses by Chris</title>
		<link>http://chrisroutledge.co.uk/blog/2008/07/cains-beer-company-posting-big-losses/#comment-1116</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 10:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely right, Richard, the beer is great--the Dusanjs have done great things on that score. They've achieved a lot in a very short time, both in the brewery and in the city, and failure at this stage would be very harsh indeed. I'm off to buy some Cain's today too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely right, Richard, the beer is great&#8211;the Dusanjs have done great things on that score. They&#8217;ve achieved a lot in a very short time, both in the brewery and in the city, and failure at this stage would be very harsh indeed. I&#8217;m off to buy some Cain&#8217;s today too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cain&#8217;s Beer Company Posting Big Losses by Richard</title>
		<link>http://chrisroutledge.co.uk/blog/2008/07/cains-beer-company-posting-big-losses/#comment-1115</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've just bought a couple of bottles of Cains superb Raisin beer from my local Morrisons. I love the Cains brand and Cains beer; their Bock was recently named best real ale at the Wetherspoons beer festival. 

Their beers cannot be left to die. The only way out as far as I see it as a standalone enterprise it is to unload their pub estate and concentrate on the brewery operation. That or a white knight takeover.

Personally, I will continue to promote their beers down here in the South East as a shareholder and a fan and I wish the Dusanj brothers the very best of luck in their efforts to save the company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just bought a couple of bottles of Cains superb Raisin beer from my local Morrisons. I love the Cains brand and Cains beer; their Bock was recently named best real ale at the Wetherspoons beer festival. </p>
<p>Their beers cannot be left to die. The only way out as far as I see it as a standalone enterprise it is to unload their pub estate and concentrate on the brewery operation. That or a white knight takeover.</p>
<p>Personally, I will continue to promote their beers down here in the South East as a shareholder and a fan and I wish the Dusanj brothers the very best of luck in their efforts to save the company.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cain&#8217;s Beer Company Posting Big Losses by Chris</title>
		<link>http://chrisroutledge.co.uk/blog/2008/07/cains-beer-company-posting-big-losses/#comment-1114</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My only connection with Cain's is that I've written a book about the brewery's long and chequered history, so I know as much (or as little) about the current situation as anyone else, but I thought the estate was undergoing quite significant refurbishment and that's partly the problem. 100-plus pubs is a lot of B&#038;Q own-brand emulsion. It does look as if the takeover has put the company under a lot of strain.

As for the harrassment rumour, from a legal (and moral) point of view we need to be very careful about publishing comments that include serious allegations of this kind where specific people are identified. That's why I've edited your comment--my edits in [square brackets]. There is no excuse for harrassment or bullying of any kind so I would like to think that swift action would be taken if there was any foundation to it and like you I'd be very disappointed if it turns out that it wasn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only connection with Cain&#8217;s is that I&#8217;ve written a book about the brewery&#8217;s long and chequered history, so I know as much (or as little) about the current situation as anyone else, but I thought the estate was undergoing quite significant refurbishment and that&#8217;s partly the problem. 100-plus pubs is a lot of B&#038;Q own-brand emulsion. It does look as if the takeover has put the company under a lot of strain.</p>
<p>As for the harrassment rumour, from a legal (and moral) point of view we need to be very careful about publishing comments that include serious allegations of this kind where specific people are identified. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve edited your comment&#8211;my edits in [square brackets]. There is no excuse for harrassment or bullying of any kind so I would like to think that swift action would be taken if there was any foundation to it and like you I&#8217;d be very disappointed if it turns out that it wasn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cain&#8217;s Beer Company Posting Big Losses by jenny forrester</title>
		<link>http://chrisroutledge.co.uk/blog/2008/07/cains-beer-company-posting-big-losses/#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>jenny forrester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would like to wish Cain's all the best however they made a huge error in buying honeycomb leisure, a poorly run badly managed company. Cains have done little to sort out the estate and the their pubs are in many cases badly managed. 

I also heard a rumor that there is harassment of a sexual nature being committed by some of the pub managers towards staff and that [senior staff at the company don't appear to have acted on it yet]. This information apparently came from a head office Cains employee who is outraged by the lack of action

i certainly cant support a company like that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would like to wish Cain&#8217;s all the best however they made a huge error in buying honeycomb leisure, a poorly run badly managed company. Cains have done little to sort out the estate and the their pubs are in many cases badly managed. </p>
<p>I also heard a rumor that there is harassment of a sexual nature being committed by some of the pub managers towards staff and that [senior staff at the company don't appear to have acted on it yet]. This information apparently came from a head office Cains employee who is outraged by the lack of action</p>
<p>i certainly cant support a company like that</p>
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